Sunday, February 26, 2017

2/26/2017 That Notorious Buffett Bet

Sector Model
XLU
6.69%
Full Model
Date
Return
Days
BT
8/11/2015
-39.56%
565
DY
10/30/2015
6.57%
485
TMK
11/23/2015
29.59%
461
UPLMQ
12/1/2015
84.79%
453
NVR
12/16/2015
16.27%
438
CMP
2/19/2016
12.95%
373
NVR
2/22/2016
21.17%
370
ENOC
3/15/2016
-22.81%
348
AMWD
3/17/2016
18.43%
346
CASY
5/12/2016
3.12%
290
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5/24/2016
3.94%
278
AEM
6/7/2016
-9.44%
264
ESRX
6/13/2016
-5.74%
258
AMED
6/16/2016
-3.93%
255
FRO
6/27/2016
-11.79%
244
ASTE
7/12/2016
8.79%
229
MFC
9/1/2016
35.53%
178
SFM
9/8/2016
-1.58%
171
CFFN
9/12/2016
10.72%
167
FIG
12/6/2016
56.89%
82
(Since 5/31/2011)
S&P
Annualized
10.34%
Sector Model
Annualized
16.78%
Full Model
Annualized
13.03%
S&P
Total
75.98%
Sector Model
Total
143.78%
Full Model
Total
102.05%
Sector Model
Advantage
6.44%
Full Model
Advantage
2.69%
Previous
2017
S&P
66.43%
5.74%
Sector Model
120.54%
10.54%
Full Model
91.27%
5.64%


In the news this week is a bet that Warren Buffett made against hedge funds – arguing that during a 10 year period the S&P would out-perform any given list of at least five hedge funds selected from the start of the bet.

The bet is notorious for two reasons: 1) the hedge funds didn’t line up to bet against Buffett, and 2) the S&P is on track to win the bet.

What it is not notorious for is that it is a fake bet.

If you want to make as much money as possible over a long period of time, the S&P will usually out-perform bonds, gold, age to retirement mutual funds, and for that matter pretty much every mutual fund out there.

A ten year time frame is usually a good two market cycles.  And if I had been Buffett I would have suggested SLY (a small cap ETF) instead of SPY (the S&P ETF).  In fact that’s exactly what I told my oldest son a few months ago when he asked about investment advice.  ETFs also have the advantage that you don’t have to pay taxes until you sell, so they are as good as an IRA account for a similar set of stocks.

So why hedge?

If you aren’t already rich, there’s no need.  And, if you have at least 10 years until retirement there shouldn’t be any need either.  It’s not impossible to lose over a 10 year period, but it’s not common.  If you were to make that wager for every 10 year rolling period in your life you’d win the bet most of the time.

And that’s the point of the Buffett bet.

But for hedge funds, it’s a fake bet.  Hedge funds are for people who are already rich and don’t want to lose too much money.  They aren’t trying to gain more than the market long-term, but lose less in a downturn short-term.

Buffett knew this when he offered the bet.  So did the hedge funds when they didn’t take him up on the bet.

But most of us don’t know it, and so the bet has a rhetorical point for us: go long – not just long vs short, but long-term vs short-term.  If you want to save for retirement, give yourself as much time to save, save as much as you can, and park it in an asset class that USUALLY outperforms the others. 

So for my 30 year old son I suggested small caps.

If he were in his early 50s I’d suggest large caps.

After that perhaps looking at bonds.  Hopefully in the next 25 years bonds will become attractive again…

But hedging?  To GET rich?  No.  Hedging is for those who have too much to lose.  That excludes most of us lower mortals.  If you’re reading a blog online that’s probably not you.

Tim


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